Anyone hear about this story, i myself just heard it this morning when they interviewed some of the mothers from the compound. Watching this video was just creepy, i mean no expression, no emotion, and they seem to avoid all the controversial question about the sexual misconduct and such which was a bit odd since they say that nothing is wrong.

Yeah, it's been on the news for a couple days I think. This is a sect of the religion that broke off from the traditional church when the main Mormon group banned multiple marriages decades ago. It's also the group that the current main leader is in prision for forcing young kids to get married then sticking around on the wedding night to make sure they consumated it when neither of them seemed to want the union. I think there is some laws broken concerning taking money from members and using it for personal gain... but I'm not sure if I'm remembering this about that guy or someone else.

The name of the Mormon scum is Warren Jeffs, currently incarcerated.

Thankfully, the state did something right - it removed the endangered children from the custody of their demented parents and is placing them in foster care and up for adoption. There was a story about how saddened the mormon mothers are, yet they lived freely in a compound where children were abused and sexual used. How saddened, indeed

Ya it was odd and creepy watchign these mothers on TV saying stuff like "Our children have never been abused, they have lived a good life in our standards, they have not known true abuse till now when the U.S. government took them from us *crying*".

Go watch the videos on comcast or i'm sure youtube has it. They talked about their leader and when asked if he had set up marriages with underage girls and much older men and then forced the girl to have sex they looked at eachother and said "we cannot be sure at this time" or something like that. Just kind of creeped me out that there is a place that does this a
nd the mothers condone it.

mark down one for religion. it spreads so much good in this world you know.

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mark down one for religion. it spreads so much good in this world you know.

To make a generalization about all religion from this one extreme sect's disgusting and horrible practices is not right. I'm sorry, but this group does not represent all of religion in any case. To assume that it does is not only wrong, but offensive.

Anyway, this group is disgusting. Anyone who would do that to their children deserves to be locked up.

religion is fucking useless.

belief, that's what really counts. the pope, muhammed, joseph smith all useless figures to perpetuate human stupidity and guilt. and guilt brings money. and stupidity breeds war.

Wes is a religious adherent, one of the few I have come to respect. I myself was baptized Roman Catholic and to this day pray in Latin (as best possible.) I do find Religion as it is anymore to be a system of indoctrination and perpetuating self-hatred, but there are those who generally believe in it and see it for its better attributes. I have to respect that as I myself see the goodness in authoritarian governments and non-democractic states, so it would be hypocritical of me to do otherwise.

I suppose to each his own is the best course but when, as happens with these Mormons, that way endangers the welfare of others, than the state should step in. Shame on the Ami legal system that it took so long for this raid to occur when one specific Sheriff's Deputy and a Texas Ranger had suspected it for over two years. Think of how many abuses happened in that time....

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religion is useless.

belief, that's what really counts. the pope, muhammed, joseph smith all useless figures to perpetuate human stupidity and guilt. and guilt brings money. and stupidity breeds war.

There will always be those who give a bad name to any system. In this case, I agree that people like Muhammed and Joseph Smith, and perhaps even the Pope, were deceived, or were themselves deceivers.

The point is that individuals do not a religion make. The Pope may be a figurehead for one sect of Christianity. Muhammed may be the founder of Islam, and Joseph Smith the founder of Mormanism. But it is the belief of the individual person that matters.

For example, I am a Christian, and probably closer to Southern Baptist than any other denomination. Yet I do not agree with everything that the Southern Baptist convention says. As for guilt, one does not need religion to perpetuate that. Guilt exists; it is religion (specifically, I think, Christianity) that explains why one experiences guilt and how to do something about it. Stupidity? I agree that humanity as a whole is stupid and easily deceived, and that some people prey on that fact. But that does not mean that the basis for their deception is not true. Some of the greatest deceptions in history were based on a twisting of the truth rather than a complete falsity.

As Telan said, religion, while oft twisted and used for selfish reasons, does have it's place. The core beliefs of just about all religions are good guides to living (eg ten commandants) whether or not you believe in the rest of it (afterlife, god(s), etc). Within each of those religions are all types of people: the selfish, the powerhungry, the saintly, the sameritian, etc.

You can't paint everyone in a religion with the same brush, just as not all catholic priests are peodofiles, or not all muslims are terrorists.