Mechis III (Trachta)
  • Posted On: Nov 16 2003 12:22am
Drayson, I have no problem with your post, so stay out of this thread.


Damages:
19 BoPs destroyed from bombardment and torpedo hits


What the hell is this?

Why do you continuously ignore the abilities of my ships?
Why do you continuously ignore the damages that have been inflicted upon your ship?
Why do you continuously ignore the fact that your Venerator is one big floating piece of durasteel. It HAS NO WEAPONS LEFT TO FIRE ON THE BIRDS OF PREY. Get that through your head!


ASD Shields at 0%, Hull at 70% and dropping
2 Bakuras Shields at 0% and 80% hull.


That is pure crap.

The ships are underneath the shipyards! What the hell? You stated that your ships are firing on the Birds of Prey! And the Venerator has no weapons to fire on the ships. If any of your ships tried to shoot on my ships, you'd destroy your own DAMN yards!

You are not invincible. Your ships have flaws, they have damage! Your ships are not as agile as you portray them to be. They are Star Destroyers for crying out loud!


The damage on the Birds of Prey are impossible. Why?

1. The Birds of Prey are fast.They travel at 60 MGLT.
2. The Birds have their shields up.


Captain Warth stood quietly on the secondary bridge of the massive command destroyer as he watched the enemy Bird of Preys begin to put distance between themsevles and the Barbarossa II.



Nowhere in the VCD R&D does it specify a 'secondary bridge'. Captain Warth is dead, sorry.


"Idiots," he said very cruely as he watched them fly away. They were simply presenthing themselves to the many remaining weapon arrays on the ship.



The Birds of Prey are not 'flying away' they are merely putting a little bit of distance between themselves and the Venerator. This is so they will not suffer collateral damage due to the coming Venerator exposion. We are talking maybe a few kilometers. (Note that the Birds are also traveling at max speed - as is battle prodecure.)



"Order our support ships to keep up the attack on those ships, they foolishly continue to focus their pathetic weapons on us. All weapons continue firing and get target locks," Warth said coldly as he watched the enemy continuing to fire on the vessel that severly outclassed them in size and firepower even in its crippled state.<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>


I will state again, the Venerator has NO shields. It's hull is fracturing at thousands of different points. It's hull integrity is almost at it's breaking point.


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The Birds of Prey are highly manuverable, and you have not taken into account the damage you have sustained due to their attack. While I concede that a few of the Birds have been destroyed, 19 is WAAAAY to much. WAY to much.


Fire," Warth said watched with a vindictive glint in his eye as the Venerator released a massive volley of proton torpedoes. The blue warheads soared forward into the Bird of Preys and within moments there were mutliple flashes as the warheads impacted and the ORS warhships embraced oblivion. As the glare from the explosions cleared, Warth smiled wickedly. There were barely any of the annoying little vessels left after that onslaught and thus there weren't enough to even have a chance of damaging the Venerator anymore.


The Venerator has a total complement of twenty torpedo tubes. The ISDs have none, the Shrouds have three. The 'massive' volley is nonexistant. And even if it was, Captain Warth and the officers onboard the Venerator are dead, and therefore could never, ever have ordered the volley.

Note that your Occult missiles are old and obsolete, please.

Captain Vassili stood on the bridge of the ISD Infamy as his vessel along with its two VSDs continued to fire on the ASD as it singlemindedly fired on the shipyards.


This may be the only part of the entire post that I do not have much of a problem with. But you must address certain concerns. The Alliegiance is 3200 meters long. About twice the size of an ISD. It's shields are powerful, as are it's weapons. The shields onboard this thing cannot go from 60 to zero in one post, sorry. You need to take lessons in how to be a fleet RPer, you really do.


Please, please fix this. As I stated before, some of the Birds have reasonably been destroyed - this is a fact. But 19 is crazy. Edit to 5 or so, and I'll by happy. Otherwise I'll drag this out for weeks if I have to.

The ASD, and The Bakuras:

Sorry, but their shields are up, all the way, and there are seven Bakura-class Destroyers, all of them spread out underneath the yards. You have a limited number of ships (your post was before Drayson's)The ASD would reasonably suffer damage, but what you are proposing is just stupid.



I advise you to edit your posts so we can end this stupid thing.
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  • Posted On: Nov 16 2003 4:55am
I'd love to stay out, I reallly would. But I spotted far to many lies in that thread to keep myself from doing it.

It HAS NO WEAPONS LEFT TO FIRE ON THE BIRDS OF PREY. Get that through your head!


Nowhere in your post do you specifcy attacking weapons systems. You directed your fire against the engines, hyperdrive, and bridge.

Therefor, there are still weapons systems left to fire.

There's also the other ships still there, which are undamaged and still attacking your ships. They each have more than 200 weapons emplacements, you know.


That is pure crap.

The ships are underneath the shipyards! What the hell? You stated that your ships are firing on the Birds of Prey! And the Venerator has no weapons to fire on the ships. If any of your ships tried to shoot on my ships, you'd destroy your own DAMN yards!


Now, taken from Tractha's post earlier on:

The rest of the Mechis Cluster Fleet, now fully around the planet closed in quickly and mercilessly on the 5 Bakuras and the ASD trying to destroy the shipyards that had only been under Commodore Trachta's control long enough to build the massive Venerator as well as a decent beginning fleet for his governorship over the area.


There are several ships engaging yours directly, removed from the Barbossa battle. You've completely ignored these forces in your last posts, meaning that they have been hammering your ships in that region for two full posts - enough time to stip away shields, especcially when you pretend they aren't there.


The Alliegiance is 3200 meters long. About twice the size of an ISD. It's shields are powerful, as are it's weapons. The shields onboard this thing cannot go from 60 to zero in one post, sorry.


Taken from the SWTC, generally acknowledged source for information. Note the length of the Allegiance, the same length TRF has been building it at for years.

[Allegiance-class star destroyer]

type: destroyer
name: Allegiance?
nickname:
builder: Kuat Drive Yards ?
length: 2.2km
volume:
engines: 3 major, 4 minor
weaponry:
internal docking: minor or none
fighters: few or none
reference: Dark Empire, Dark Empire II


It is under attack by a group of Star Destroyers, and six Hapan Battle Dragons. It's going to take damage, it has taken damage. Not to mention that two of those ships are Victory Class, and can throw salvos of 160 missiles at your precious ASD.


Please, please fix this. As I stated before, some of the Birds have reasonably been destroyed - this is a fact. But 19 is crazy. Edit to 5 or so, and I'll by happy. Otherwise I'll drag this out for weeks if I have to.



You are not invincible. Your ships have flaws, they have damage!



You're facing a combined enemy force of 11 Star Destroyers. These are Imperial fighting machines, they are capable of destroying your ships. And doing so quickly, because your ships are only 300 meters long!


Sorry, but their shields are up, all the way, and there are seven Bakura-class Destroyers, all of them spread out underneath the yards. You have a limited number of ships (your post was before Drayson's)The ASD would reasonably suffer damage, but what you are proposing is just stupid.


Wow, Magic! You warped two more Bakura Destroyers in, did you?

Let me explain something to you. You're the one that did more than 8000 points of damage in one post, with two 850-meter ships. You have absolutely no right to be telling people their damage assesment is "stupid".

Tratcha (and I) have done around 2000 SBD/RU points, over several posts, with a grand total meterage in the hundred thousands.


The Birds of Prey are not 'flying away' they are merely putting a little bit of distance between themselves and the Venerator. This is so they will not suffer collateral damage due to the coming Venerator exposion. We are talking maybe a few kilometers. (Note that the Birds are also traveling at max speed - as is battle prodecure.)


That's a contradiction right there.

If the BoPs are out of range of the explosion of a combat ship's main reactor, they are not in firing range. But you're claiming to be in firing range, and out of range of the explosion.

Right.

And if they "put some distance" between themselves and the Venerator, they have to (at some point) present their sterns of the ship. Unless they're flying backwards, of course.


The Venerator has a total complement of twenty torpedo tubes. The ISDs have none, the Shrouds have three. The 'massive' volley is nonexistant. And even if it was, Captain Warth and the officers onboard the Venerator are dead, and therefore could never, ever have ordered the volley.


That's an outright mistruth.

*Occult High Yield Proton Torpedo Arrays - In the hull for most of the time, these torpedo arrays only come out to quickly empty a salvo of one dozen proton torpedoes at a given target before submerging again to reload. Tracking must take place while surfaced. Each array contains 3 salvos, and only takes 40 seconds to reload.


The Venerator carries 20 of these, for a total of 240 proton torpedoes.


Note that your Occult missiles are old and obsolete, please.


Star Destroyers are obsolete. Doesn't make them any less deadly.


Nowhere in the VCD R&D does it specify a 'secondary bridge'. Captain Warth is dead, sorry.


Wow! Way to be a vindictive ass! Killing NPCs is, of course, allowable under the rules. But most RPers don't go around slaughtering them for kicks, out of respect and good roleplaying.

*shrug*



You entire post is one big contradiction. You constantly tell Tratcha that he is not invincible, yet treat your BoPs like they are. You tell Tratcha the damage is rediculous, yet you yourself did four times that ammount without blinking an eye. Several of your points were outright lies, and others were posted ignoring Tractha's actions IC.
  • Posted On: Nov 16 2003 5:44am
Go the hell away. I was never speaking to you. Let him speak for himself.

And I am tired of people thinking that shooting Birds of Prey is like shooting fish in a bucket. I am sure that if these were other ships, say nebulon-B's, this damage would not have been done.

Drayson, the Venerator may have all of those torpedoes, but nowhere does it say that the Venerator loaded the torpedoes into the tube. There are no torpedoes in the tube because it was never stated that they were loaded, this is not hardball, it is the truth. It has been a staff ruling that it requires two posts to load and fire.


You can't build upon each other's damage, you already know this.

The captain of the Venerator is dead. I don't care if I am being an ass, I am just taking after you. He is dead, and there is no secondary bridge. That means there is nobody to order the Imperial fleet to do anything.

Your battle dragons and star destroyers just arrived within firing range. The ships commanded by you have done almost no damage.

And about the NPCs and being an ass:

I don't care. Never did. I don't care about being nice to you or anyone on the side of the Empire. You are a cheater, Drayson, and so is Trachta. Edit those damages, I will not let you or anyone else get away with destroying 19 of my ships.
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  • Posted On: Nov 16 2003 5:55am
Calm, Griff. They are not the enemy, The Empire itself is.
  • Posted On: Nov 16 2003 6:45am
Drayson and Trachta are both part of TNO, and as such I believe Drayson has the right to defend his fellow faction-member. It is not your privilage to say otherwise.

(This is Patton, BTW.)
  • Posted On: Nov 16 2003 7:41am
I am tired of arguing. I really am.
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  • Posted On: Nov 16 2003 8:37am
Griff, that may well be because each arguement you involve yourself in, you seem to lose.

The issues are apparent, irregardless of who stated them and, if you wish to have issues with Trachtas post it is folly to assume that you would be indemnified from similiar treatment.
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  • Posted On: Nov 17 2003 3:33am
The ASD's shields went from 70% to 0% in one post.

The Bakura's from 80% to 0%.

That's not reasonable.
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  • Posted On: Nov 17 2003 4:29am
Marth, learn to log out of my account.
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  • Posted On: Nov 17 2003 4:32am
Actually it is possible. VSDs are vessels made for bombarding the hell out of stuff and Griff ignored my fleet. No my fault he did so. Just one tactical error he'll have to live with