The Official Halo 2 Spoilers and Information Thread
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  • Posted On: Oct 29 2004 10:19am
Recent Halo 2 News:

Microsoft's biggest Xbox release for 2004 has been leaked to the Internet; surfaces on file-sharing sites. Company stands by official November 9 release date.

Late last night, 27 days before its officially scheduled retail release, a complete version of Microsoft's upcoming first-person shooter Halo 2 was leaked to the Internet. The pirated release, a PAL version of the game with French-language dialogue, is currently making its way around various Usenet newsgroups and peer-to-peer networks.

In a statement that Microsoft is sending only to media outlets that request comment, it admits the game "has been posted to various newsgroups and web sites."

While Microsoft says it is "currently investigating the source of this leak with the appropriate authorities," there has been no word on precisely where or how the game originally surfaced at this time, although Microsoft says it is actively tracing the leak. "Microsoft takes the integrity of its intellectual property extremely seriously, and we are aggressively pursuing the source of this illegal act."

It should be noted that players who download the game illegally could face a maximum penalty of $100,000 per instance for copyright violations. "We consider downloading this code or making it available for others to download as theft," the statement continues.

Reaction to the leak from developer Bungie, whose employees have spent most of the past three years developing Halo 2, was understandably more visceral. "We think this really sucks," read a staffer's post on the company's official Web site. "Aside from years of hard work being stolen from us, we've gone to great lengths to ensure that the details of the Halo 2 campaign remain a mystery."

"Microsoft," the post says, "is currently engaged in a full-scale investigation" to come down hard on "those foolish enough to partake in this piracy."

Another message, this one directed at the members of the bungie.net forums, warned of dire, sweeping consequences that would befall any member who posted screens stolen from the leaked game, or hinted that he or she had the game, or knew where to get it. "A link… on the forums will get you banned permanently [from the forums]." Worse, users whose GamerTag user name is listed in their user profile "risk having your Xbox Live account's ability to play Halo 2 crippled…We are NOT kidding around here."

"There's no doubt in my mind that Microsoft has people tracking down whoever was responsible for this," wrote the Bungie-appointed moderator on the forum. "I hope whoever it was thought that leaking the game was worth his job."

Halo 2, which continues the adventures of Master Chief with an all-new single-player adventure, as well as Xbox Live support for Internet-based multiplayer, is scheduled to hit retail shelves on November 9--a date that Microsoft says "remains unaffected."


Microsoft trumpets the success of its shooter sequel by claiming it will be the biggest, single-day, entertainment cash cow.

Unless he or she has been in a coma, most gamers on the planet know Halo 2 is one of the year's most anticipated titles. But most didn't know how anticipated the game truly was until today, when Microsoft announced it has confirmed more than 1.5 million preorders for the game. And these are only the American preorders. Halo 2 will go on sale in 26 other countries on November 9, and it will be translated into seven languages (Japanese, Korean, Mandarin Chinese, Spanish, French, German, and Italian).

"With phenomenal record-breaking video game preorders, Halo 2 is poised to generate more revenue in 24 hours than day-one sales of any full-feature movie in entertainment history, including Spider-Man 2, Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban, and The Matrix Reloaded," boasted Microsoft in a statement.

Microsoft also answered a more pressing question asked by gamers: "How soon can I get a copy of Halo 2?" Microsoft announced it is planning to sell the first copy of the game at the Toys "R" Us in New York City's Times Square at 12:01am on November 9. Similar midnight sales will be held at approximately 6,500 retailers nationwide, including GameStop, EB Games, Best Buy, Gamecrazy, Game Rush, Circuit City, Kmart, and FYE. Check your local retailer for details.
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  • Posted On: Oct 29 2004 2:09pm
The pirated release, a PAL version of the game with French-language dialogue, is currently making its way around various Usenet newsgroups and peer-to-peer networks.

Eg: All of three people will be able to play it.
"With phenomenal record-breaking video game preorders, Halo 2 is poised to generate more revenue in 24 hours than day-one sales of any full-feature movie in entertainment history, including Spider-Man 2, Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban, and The Matrix Reloaded," boasted Microsoft in a statement.

Price of admission to Spider-man 2, $8. Price of admission for Halo 2: $50+. Apples and oranges.
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  • Posted On: Oct 29 2004 2:22pm
especially given that everyone who watched Spider-man will want their own copy of Halo 2...
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  • Posted On: Oct 29 2004 2:43pm
Price of admission to Spider-man 2, $8. Price of admission for Halo 2: $50+. Apples and oranges.


Correct, Kas. Spider-Man 2 is cheaper. Halo 2 is going to sell more. It doesn't much matter what type of fruit they are if the apple is rotten and the orange is delicious.
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  • Posted On: Oct 29 2004 6:48pm
The only reason Halo 2 will make more money in one day than the movies listed is because it costs over five times as much as a movie ticket.

Sure it'll make more money in one day, it's far more expensive.

If they said, "Halo 2 is poised to generate more revenue in 24 hours than any other video game", then there would be no argument from me. But comparing the game to movies is... not entirely fair.

See, when someone says "It made more money", people think "Made more money ... more people bought it ... more people play Halo 2 than watched Spiderman and Lord of the Rings".

Halo 2 is going to sell more. It doesn't much matter what type of fruit they are if the apple is rotten and the orange is delicious.

Nononono... the quality of the fruit is the same. Except the apple only comes in once every five years, while the orange arrives every summer or so. And the apple costs fifty cents while the orange costs eight.

Anyway, Halo 2 looks interesting enough. Maybe when the PC version comes it won't suck as bad as the last one...
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  • Posted On: Oct 29 2004 6:50pm
You're not factoring in that that's revenue. Movies cost a fuck of a lot more to make then games.
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  • Posted On: Oct 29 2004 8:31pm
What's the average cost of making a movie these days? IIRC, your average tripple-a video game has a budget of 10 to 15 million?
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  • Posted On: Oct 30 2004 7:09am
I'm more excited for Half Life 2.
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  • Posted On: Oct 30 2004 8:56am
A big budget movie like Spiderman 2 will have a budget, including advertising, approaching 300 million.
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  • Posted On: Oct 30 2004 3:49pm
Spiderman 2 made $372,871,182 in the box office. Not really much of a profit-to-budget ratio there.