Way to take a small remark and turn it into a national debate.

Hey, that's what we do here, Kraken.

And what I said still stands, Marth. President Bush can't control the creation of jobs here in the states. Nor can he control whether employers hire or fire people. There are some parts of the economy that are uncontrollable.

As for national debt, I agree he hasn't done much to clear it. But he wasn't the only one that added to it. I believe the national debt has been growing for a VERY long time.

But he wasn't the only one that added to it. I believe the national debt has been growing for a VERY long time.

http://archives.cnn.com/2000/ALLPOLITICS/stories/09/27/clinton.surplus/

Oh snap

*high five*

Yeah, and where did the money come from? The military and intelligence. What was the direct result of it? 9/11. Nuff said.

Snap indeed.

Very nice.

*points to what Kraken said* Kudos to Kraken.

He may not directly hire or fire people but his actions influence whether or not people get hired/fired.

And I understand the increased military spending post 9/11. I just don't see how increasing your spending and lowering your revenue at the same time is a good idea.