White Night and Black King OOC
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  • Posted On: Dec 14 2003 1:24am
Not to contradict you, but the Azguards broke that rule before we merged, because I don't think any of us was aware of the rule(MCR never had a hidden planet). But then that was back when Ren had his Swarm with half their planets hidden. Anyway, do you have enough information to make a ruling on this?
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  • Posted On: Dec 14 2003 1:27am
lol

I only ever had four planets anyway. <img border=0 src="http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/tongue.gif" />
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  • Posted On: Dec 14 2003 4:46am
The Swarm's planets weren't hidden as much as they were unknown. No one had ever been there, and they were unobserved, so no one had any idea that the Swarm was there.

Similar to TNO's Roon - it's listed as hidden, but rather no one really knows about it and it's extremely difficult to get to.

As far as the GC is concerned, we know Haven exists for two main reasons:
1) The GC's fleet is far greater than their known production facilities could generate, implying additional locations (i.e. Haven)
2) The New Rebellion is commonly associated with the Coalition, but there is little information on it and its fleet. This implies a hidden base of some sort.

But if you want to swap Haven for, say, Azguard... I have no problems attacking one over the other.
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  • Posted On: Dec 14 2003 4:52am
The thing is you still wouldn't know where Azguard is without some RPing. But if TNO takes Mon Calamari it should be very, very easy for you to find Azguard.
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  • Posted On: Dec 14 2003 4:56am
We've already taken Abregado-rae. You can't simply say "Oh, they don't know where it is!" Now, if you had said that during the roleplay, things might be different.

But you didn't.
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  • Posted On: Dec 14 2003 5:11am
We didn't say it in the roleplay because it wasn't necessary to say it in the roleplay because nowhere did you say anything about planning to use information to find Haven or any of my hidden planets.
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  • Posted On: Dec 14 2003 5:12am
No @#%$ I didn't say that. Then you would have said "Oh, we don't have the location." But I did mention capturing information, and within that information was included some clues to the location of Haven.

Combined with other pieces of information,we found the planet.
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  • Posted On: Dec 14 2003 5:16am
1.But as I ahve said numerous times, the Abregado-rae information has NO information on Haven, and no reason to have information on it.
2.You don't have any other pieces of information other then that we probably have a hidden planet(which won't really help you).

So lets look at it.

No information + no information = no information
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  • Posted On: Dec 14 2003 8:57am
No, Jan. You claimed that Abregado-rae has no information. You've provided no reason as to why you would deny information to one of your member worlds.

And evidently, you haven't bothered to check through the Battlegrounds as I recomended...
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  • Posted On: Dec 15 2003 12:29am
Abregado-rae doesn't have information because there is no reason for it to have the information. Haven is simply a military outpost, nothing more. Only people at Farquak, Mon Calamari, Azguard, Haven and Hurok know where Haven is, because that is where our shipyards are. Also, ships know where Haven is.