1. The Bird of Prey is the same size of a Fire Light Frigate, so the Fire Light Frigates wouldn't be able to move them very quickly.
2.Tractor Beams are meant to move fighters, not capital ships.
3.Marth has 3 times as many Birds of Prey firing on your Fire Light Cruisers. You wouldn't be able to do anywhere close to the damage that he is doing.
4.He fighters completely outnumber you. Smething like 100 more fighters. Plus, he has 17 Defender Gunships and 4 Lancer Frigates. Lancer Frigates are designed to destroy fighters. According to the X-wing series, book one, one Lancer Frigate is equivalent to 80 TIEs(probably refering to TIE Fighters). Also, TIE Devils have terrible armor, one hit from a laser cannon and they are gone. One near miss woudl severally damage them. You killed/disabled around the same number of fighters you have, ignoring the fact that he outnubmers and outguns you(Meaning he would wipe out your fighters quite easily)
5.The Missile Boats aren't anywhere near your fighters.
6.You can't self-destruct and cause damage to your enemy. If you self-destruct you just lsoe that ship, no damage to any other ships.

Reasonable damages for you to inflict assuming your capital ships are firing on four Birds Of Prey targets, and your fighters are doing what you told them to do.

Shields down to 75% on 4 Birds of Prey.
Shields down to 80-90% on a couple Lancer Frigates
About 12 TIE Advanced destroyed(Remeber, they have shields, your TIE Devils don't)

Note: When yo retreat your fighters, they will suffer a fair bit of losses due to long distance shots from the enemy.

1. I didn't move them, I just locked onto them. Locking all of them onto the bow of a vessel moving in the opposite direction would knock it slightly off course, since they would be pulled slightly off course before the lock was broken.
2. They could be used in this regard, if extra power was applied to them.
3. Aside from the damage from the collisions, the damage he has sustained from my ships firing on his ships is relativley minor.
4. TIE Devils are far more manuverable than the TIE Advanced, and would make even Lancer Frigates have a hard time targeting them. The TIE Defenders have the same manueverability as the TIE Advanced, plus they have more powerful shields, and more weaponry. They could easily destroy a number of fighters before they were taken down.
5. Okay, I'll edit out that damage.
6. The Self Destruct itself wouldn't damage any ships, but the rubble from the destroyed ship would be propelled to such speeds as to be like large asteroids flying at fast speed into other nearby vessels.

12 TIE Advanced? Right...............

120 would be a better figure. Don't forget about the anti-starfighter capacity of my Fire class Light Frigates. They each carry 30 quad laser cannons of the same kind the Lancers carry. If one Lancer equals 80 TIE Fighters, then a Fire class Light Frigate equals 120 TIE Fighters. I think my assessment of ORS fighters lost was accurate.

<blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>1. The Bird of Prey is the same size of a Fire Light Frigate, so the Fire Light Frigates wouldn't be able to move them very quickly.<hr></blockquote>

On the contrary. If a tractor beam hit a fast-moving ship, that ship would be jolted off course. That's what Kraken did, I believe.

<blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>2.Tractor Beams are meant to move fighters, not capital ships.<hr></blockquote>

No. You seem fond of quoting the X-wing series, so I'll give you something. Wraith Sqaudron, the Corvette Night Caller. It had a "capital scale tractor canon". Wedge makes mention that most ships of the size have tractors, and the reply is something along the lines of "this isn't a little tractor to move fighters around, this is a big one."

Also, A New Hope, first scene. Tractor beams being used on capital ships.

<blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>3.Marth has 3 times as many Birds of Prey firing on your Fire Light Cruisers. You wouldn't be able to do anywhere close to the damage that he is doing.<hr></blockquote>

Actually, considering relative shield strengths, yes he could. The BoPs are more heavily armed, but lack shields. The FCLFs are heavily shielded, but lesser armed. The damages would be quite close, I'd imagine.

<blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>4.He fighters completely outnumber you. Smething like 100 more fighters. Plus, he has 17 Defender Gunships and 4 Lancer Frigates. Lancer Frigates are designed to destroy fighters. According to the X-wing series, book one, one Lancer Frigate is equivalent to 80 TIEs(probably refering to TIE Fighters). Also, TIE Devils have terrible armor, one hit from a laser cannon and they are gone. One near miss woudl severally damage them. You killed/disabled around the same number of fighters you have, ignoring the fact that he outnubmers and outguns you(Meaning he would wipe out your fighters quite easily)<hr></blockquote>

How would missing a fighter damage it? And you seem totally unaware of the capabilities of the Fire Class Frigates - they are designed to destroy enemy starfighters. They are far more adapt at it than even Lancer Frigates.

The FCLFs could easily cut apart ORS's fighter screen, and the TIEs would simply be required to complete the job.

<blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>5.The Missile Boats aren't anywhere near your fighters.<hr></blockquote>

No comment.

<blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>6.You can't self-destruct and cause damage to your enemy. If you self-destruct you just lsoe that ship, no damage to any other ships.<hr></blockquote>

Tell that to Griff. As far as I'm concerned, if that kind of @#%$ flies for the ORS in battle, it does for TNO to. You can't say that ORS ships blowing up cause damage to others, but when TNO ships blow up, they don't.

That's called a double standard.

I looked up the Fleet RP rules and it doesn't say anything about self-destructing and taking a few ships with it. Meaning that it is legal.

No, it's not.

1. Even if it was jolted there would be time for the Bird of Prey captains to react and avoid a collision.

2.
In the book they used the tractor to speed them up, meaning the tractor beam was working with the engines, not against the engines.

Also, in New Hope, it was a ship 10 times as large capturing the corvette, and the corvette was damaged(I think it might have even been stopped at that point).

3. Birds of Prey to have shields. ORS revised the Bird of Prey when that issue was brought up. Also, the Fire Light Cruiser's shields are under revision.

4. He never used the Fire Light Cruisers to attack the fighters. He used them against the Defender Gunships and Birds of Prey. Also, since he was firing on 29 targets(if he goes after each Bird of Prey and each Defender Gunship), he will only be able to do minimal damage to each one.

5. I'll take it that means you agree.

6. I'll let Griff or Marth deal with that, since it is true that they did that. I was just pointing out that it was illegal, unless Marth/Griff/Staff allows it.

Vonta whining about TNO's R&Ds doesn't mean they're under review.

Jan, Griff, Drayson. Go. Leave.

Lup. Stay. Kraken Stay. Simon Stay. Gash, stay if you want.

My damages and how I did them.

3 Fire Frigates(Shields at Nil 70% Armour)
1 Fire Frigate(Shields at Nil Armour at 90%)

Umm 7 Intimidators each doing 900 SBD damage and 3 Birds of Prey each. I could actually quite legally have probably killed at least 3 of them.

30 TIE Devils Dead
20 TIE Defenders Dead

230 Fighters(which have shields) and at various points up to 34 Frigates.

His damages:

8 Birds of Prey Crippled
5 Defender Gunships shields at 50%

Well a)He mass fired Torpedoes without loading(It's illegal)
b)He used 4 285 m ships Umm no
c)He somehow managed to use his light-transport tractor beams to do this. The Bird of Preys would be travelling fast enough for the lock to be broken in a second.

2 Lancer Frigates shields at 60%
He used umm ah yes 28 TIE Defenders against a Anti-Starfighter frigate. With 13 losses.

121 TIE Advanced Destroyed
21 TIE Advanced Disabled (Ion fire from the Devils)

This is the part I like best 142 shielded fighters destroyed by umm ah yes 66 TIE Devils. He lost umm 21 TIE Devils doing that.

His Fire frigates couldn't have done any damage since:
A) The TIE Advanced didn't go anywhere near them
and
B)The TIE Advanced are much quicker.

Quotes from his post:

Tie Devils used their superior manueverability, and cannons

I'd like to hope he doesn't consider those cannons on the TIE Devils to be superior.

The Starfighters all pivoted, and added their fire to the strikcen ships

So your fighters ignored an engagement to fire at a bunch of ships. And you only lost 13? Bullshit.

Lancer class Frigates, and TIE Advances

There was a specific order I attacked. And it wasn't that.

Defender gunships moved in to target the Imperial Light Frigates

I have a suggestion for you Kraken. Read!

The Defender Gunships in formation flew into the rubble, damaging much of their shields.

I'm sorry but the Defenders weren't anywhere near the bird of preys. Once again read.

Finally, the Quad Laser cannons on the Light Frigates leapt into action, shredding whatever starfighter screen the enemy had left. With over one hundred quad laser cannons firing, and the continued harassment of the Imperial starfighters, many enemy TIEs were destroyed.

Nice try but no.

What I'd say his damages would be:

12 Bird of Preys maybe 10% damage

Lancer Frigates:
umm try 5% damage

Defender Gunships:

None because they:
A) weren't there
and
B)Weren't doing what you said they were doing

Fighters:
umm: Let's say 30 Dead or disabeled.

Your damages:
Tie Defenders:

All dead because of suicidal attack on 22 frigates which were doing anti-starfighter duties.

I have no problem with your capital ship damages

Tie Devils:

You probably have aroun 20 left

Tie Advanced Stats:
Model: TIE/ad Mark 1, Mark 2 and Mark 3 Fighter
Manufacturer: Sienar Fleet Systems

Designation: Space Superiority Starfighter

Length: 7.5 meters

Crew: 1

Cargo Capacity: 80 kilograms

Consumables: 1 week

Hyperdrive Multiplier: x2

Speed: 133 MGLT

Hull: 14 RU

Shields: 40 SBD

Weapons: 4 Laser Cannons and 2 General Purpose Launchers.

The TIE Advanced is often described as a cross between the TIE X1/X2 and the TIE Interceptor. In reality, it is an improvement over both of them. Combining heavy firepower, high speeds, a strong strong hull, shields and a hyperdrive, this ship is a suitable successor to all of it's parents. It is equipped with four laser cannons and a pair of general purpose launchers and is very maneuverable. The TIE Advanced was used in series of classified campaigns to prevent pre-Endor warlordism from shattering the Empire. This is why the Empire never brought more of these forces into the search for the Rebel Fleet after the Battle of Hoth. The TIE Advanced is nicknamed "TIE Avenger", because this craft was the TIE pilots vehicle for revenge against the hated X-Wing and A-Wing space superiority fighters.

Umm Right.

Staff if you would kindly give your opinions.

Just wondering... where exactly did you attain the technical specs for a classified and not widely known Imperial fighter project?

Meer, I'll wait for Kraken to post reguarding your breakdown there, before I do anything.