but I'll concentrate on the resource aspect from multiple planets in 1 system, but only doing the 5000 words for 1 of those planets. This is not how the rules work. You do 5000 words to take 1 planet, not 1 system. Sure you may control the whole system from a military standpoint, but you can't count those resources towards your fleet without doing the words for each planet.

I'll disagree with this statement here. That is too much like the old rules, where five thousand words for one planet equaled fifteen thousand meters. I suspect that it will entirely depend upon the circumstances present but in most cases I see no reason that a takeover should extend only to a single world within a system. I certainly wouldn't want to do a fifty thousand word RP just for the sake of taking a single planet and say, eight or nine moons that the world has.

RendAck

A sphere of influence is nothing more than the space around systems you control where your power is considered to be undisputed and your control is easily asserted while not being under direct control of that area. A good example of this is multi-planet systems. A group might put the work in to capture a single planet, while not putting any effort in to the rest of the system. One out of Eight planets is captured, the other Seven can safely be assumed under that groups sphere of influence.

As previously stated

So, if the Empire controls thousands of systems (or has influence over), then so would the Coalition (not thousands, but it would be quite up there in number.

But I assure you the second I make a post saying something like "The Coalition has influence/control of hundreds of systems" TNO WOULD cry foul.

Or Simon would use an IC organization (which I still contend is the most blatant form of godmoding since the Chadd/Xilen days - yet it is only MY opinion) to give him control of ours/other systems.

Either or.


*exits thread*

*shrug*

In the end I left serious fleeting becuase common sense rules fail in the abscence of common sense and the desire to 'win'. I'm no less guilty of wanting to win than anyone else, but I do carry a modicum of common sense with me... and a healthy appreciation of math and the old system ^_^

Although the Coalition is roughly half the size of the Empire in the number of planets, the areas where those planets are located and how they are grouped would determine what the SOI would look like. If the Empire controlled a thousand systems, I would say the Coalition controlled 300-400 systems. The only problem is, the Empire controls territory that has been developed and expanded for thousands of years, while much of the Coalition territory is recently discovered and developed, in the timeframe of the Galaxy.

I think that some of you need to take a step back and appreciate that we're trying to create a semi-realistic universe, not a completely realistic one. Yes, realism is very important at TRF. But never should it be at the expense of creating handicaps for certain factions.

If you want to say that the Empire has spheres of influence spanning thousands of systems because these planets are effected by actual Imperial held planets, so too does the Coalition. What you're debating right now is IC semantics, not OOC ones, because if you come up with the kind of reasoning that Mr. Gilad has, it puts the Galactic Coalition at an unfair disadvantage to the Empire.

If you want to say that the Coalition's economy is in a period of recovery after the war they've been involved in, that is completely understandable. But by the same idea you have to consider that the New Order's economy isn't impeccable because of the sheer amount of manpower you have going into your fleet. Your amount of capitals ships in meterage above 5km is ridiculous compared to the Coalition's, and you have to take into account that not only do you employ those ships but apparently a massive amount of normal star destroyers. Your economy is not in tip top shape.

The Coalition put in just as much effort as you did to take control of each of their planets, so they have the same amount of a sphere of influence as compared to their number of planets as you do as compared to your number of planets. And saying that this is not true because the Empire has been around for longer or because your worlds are more spread out is just plain silly.

The GC IS at a fair disadvantage, due to their own past actions... not due to semantics.

I'm not referring to their economics. I'm referring to their spheres of influence.

It's a TNO dominated galaxy, always has been. You can't suddenly argue that its not and expect an okay....

Good sense is the most fairly distributed thing in the world, for everyone thinks himself so well supplied with it that even those who are hardest to satisfy in every other way do not usually desire more of it than they already have.

~Rene Descartes

I cannot speak on the behalf of the Coalition, but while I might not agree with all of the points of Vos' list, but I think it is in the right spirit. I don't think everyone will ever agree to all of those points, but I think it's something that everyone should strive for. Both factions probably have done things that are somewhat unrealistic at times, and what seems as common sense to some will not seem like common sense to others; this is the price of using relative-based rules.

Michael has concisely stated the basic ideas of my premises. I think it is time to stop this thread, and actually start writing.