An Interesting Excerpt From Red Dawn
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  • Posted On: Dec 31 2003 7:14am
After the infamous Battle of Bespin not long ago, Cloud City was almost completely repaired and restored, and the mining of Tibanna Gas was going in full. The populace had come to accept their new government, and there were no complaints.
Uh, interesting. So, what you did was somehow repair a station which plummeted below the inhabitable region of Bespin and was then COMPLETELY destroyed, begin mining a gas which was largely wiped from the planet in the capacity it was before, and then convert the loyalties of a universally dead people.

That's a neat trick. Tell me Ralen, did you bother to read "For the People" at all, or are you just purely bullshitting your way through this one?
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  • Posted On: Dec 31 2003 7:29am
I know where my money lies.
  • Posted On: Dec 31 2003 7:28pm
Uh, interesting. So, what you did was somehow repair a station which plummeted below the inhabitable region of Bespin and was then COMPLETELY destroyed, begin mining a gas which was largely wiped from the planet in the capacity it was before, and then convert the loyalties of a universally dead people.


Yeah you have the jists of it.

Tell me Ralen, did you bother to read "For the People" at all,


No actually I didn't. This thread was thrown onto me by Griff and Marth because they couldn't get to it so at the last second to prevent us from being subjected to the 72 hour rule, I made a quick post off the top of my head.

You'll have to forgive me if I work on short notice.

or are you just purely bullshitting your way through this one?


That's a fallacious point to be taking. I'm not bullshitting in any way, I am straining to get done here what I can get done. I got no foreknowledge short of "Ralen you're in charge of the defense, we're gonna' disappear".

Therefore I threw together what I could from speaking with other people about this RP.

Besides, 13 out of 14 planets without flaw is pretty good in my opinion, give me a little credit. Scouting threads are not exactly easy to respond to with any degree of quality.
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  • Posted On: Dec 31 2003 9:36pm
Well then I guess we'll just consider what you said to be the non-existent bullshit you just admitted it to be.
  • Posted On: Dec 31 2003 9:47pm
You're allowed to consider whatever you like Mr. Gevel.

All I'M asking you to consider is that Cloud City is more or less restored or in a state of restoration and the people have come to terms with and accept the new government.

If you want to consider it to be otherwise you have the right to be wrong.
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  • Posted On: Dec 31 2003 9:56pm
Sure, you could ship in a new city... but you're not going to be able to restore the planet's atmosphere that fast. Heck, I don't know if the atmosphere is restorable.
  • Posted On: Dec 31 2003 9:58pm
What I do find difficult to believe though is that an entire planet/atmosphere could be so utterly obliterated in so short a time after existing through undoubtably far worse catastrophes for billions of years.
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  • Posted On: Dec 31 2003 10:03pm
Tibanna gas is volatile.
  • Posted On: Dec 31 2003 10:06pm
So are many various gases and minerals on earth, and despite all the devastating war and accidents we've had we've hardly scraped the planet's surface.

I'm not denying lasting damage, but the destruction of an atmosphere isn't exactly easily attained.
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  • Posted On: Dec 31 2003 10:15pm
So are many various gases and minerals on earth, and despite all the devastating war and accidents we've had we've hardly scraped the planet's surface.
Comparing so called "volatile" materials on earth to tibanna on a gas giant world is idiotic, Ralen. I explained very carefully just how it occured, and no one protested it.

Therefore, it has happened. The time for you to protest is long over. It's up to you to deal with the damage done.

I'm not denying lasting damage, but the destruction of an atmosphere isn't exactly easily attained.
No, you're right, it isn't. But then, I detonated what amounts to a city-sized bomb in planet filled with gas that essentially combusts when energy touches it. If I'd shot some lasers into the atmosphere and declared it over and done with, now, that'd be something.

Besides which, it's not as if I completely roasted the planet's entire atmosphere. The tibanna on Bespin is contained in relatively small pockets, which were penetrated by the massive amount of heat and light energy released by the detonation of Cloud City, releasing themselves more heat and light as they too exploded. Most of these pockets are now obliterated.

Either way, I would question how you could so quickly rebuild such an absolutely mammoth station and then somehow convinced millions of civilians to move in overnight. The problem isn't that you've found a way to harvest tibanna again -- there would be some left -- or that you've replaced the city. It's that you've done both to such an enormous degree and essentially restored everything to absolute normal by snapping your fingers.